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August 14, 2009 at 3:26 am #2856RhodesParticipant
I ve been working in Norway offshore as an ROV pilot in freelance for subservepro (they don t deal taxes, I have asked), and would like to know if somebody knows how taxes in Norway work?
I meen wath is the percentage of you wage/ dayrate/ yearly income?
Really don t know….
I went on the web site:
http://www.taxadministration.no
https://www.skatteetaten.no/upload/Brosjyrer%20og%20bok/Brosjyre-Working_in_Norway.pdf
But it still isn t clear.
Probably somebody out ho there has some good information about it to share?
Help needed!!
CheersAugust 14, 2009 at 4:08 am #24458submanParticipantHi I have worked in Norway and Denmark many times and no body will give you a straight answer I have tried .
All I know is that if your on about £400 a day your be lucky to take home £300 .
If you live in England your know what I mean by emergency tax they will take a large amount from you and you might get some back also there is a agreement between England and Norway so if you pay in Norway your agency should give you a tax receipt so You wont end paying twice .So if you live in england or some were that has a agreement with Norway you wont have to pay in your home countrie .
Sorry I cant give you percentage but it will be a large amount this is why so many people dont want to work in Norway or Denmark because the rates on offer now are very low it may look good before Tax but take home pay is low.My information may be out of date but you only have to look how many job offers are in Norway .
Cheers
Subman
August 14, 2009 at 7:54 am #24460James McLauchlanParticipantI tried a Forum search on Norway but it pulled up nothing!.. which is crap, so that needs looking into.
From what I recollect you would be looking at losing about 40% in Noggie taxes
So rather that taking home £300 out of £400
I would expect it to be more like you taking home £240 out of £400
I’m sure someone will come along soon enough and correct both the above scenarios.
August 14, 2009 at 8:47 am #24459sedcoParticipantIf you are working thru an agency and they don’t take the tax off it will be up to you to declare it.
If it’s a one off job is it worth the hassle?
If you were working in Nigeria, or Qatar or Vietnam would you also be inquiring where to pay your tax? Most don’t, I know I don’t.
August 14, 2009 at 10:39 am #24461submanParticipantIn Norway they will tax you via agency or Direct and when your agency pays you you will see a very large amount " GONE " Thanks James for the Info Wow only £240 out of £400 like I said before you have to be Nuts to work there .
Norway and Denmark are not the same as Nigeria, or Qatar or Vietnam yes you wont pay tax or the company your working for will pay it for you .
But like I said you will pay TAX fact if the body shop tells you dont worry your going to see a very large amount missing when you get paid but you might get a little back if your lucky .
Cheers
Subman
August 14, 2009 at 11:43 am #24462Ray ShieldsParticipantSubman,
you mean UK not England – the same applies to all countries within the UK, not just England (unless Scotland has a seperate tax agreement no-one has told me about!)
The tax in Norway is not based upon you earn X you pay Y% tax as the UK does. They have tax tables that vary depending on the amount you earn. If you work there all year % wise the amount of tax you pay is not too bad (last time I worked in norway for 6 month of the year it worked out at 28% tax.)
The problem is if you do say one 1 month trip a year, the % can be as high as 40% as James said. There is a recipricol tax agreement between the UK and Norway.
There are various allowances you can claim:-
something like NOK 3000 for each month you work there
15% standard deduction for being a foreigner
if you work onboard ships that are registered to work in Norway and carry out work which is not on their exclusion list (cant remember, stuff like construction, pipelay, surveys – think maintenance or repair is OK) and do this for >135 days a year, you can claim a 30% deduction up to a maximum of NOK70000 a year
you can also register to be exempt paying their National Insurance.So you deduct the monthly allowance, the 15% deduction and the 30% deduction and whatever is left is taxed.
Note that if you work onboard a ship and are NOT carrying out work which is oil or gas related, you will pay your home countrys tax and not Norwegian (I have a letter confirming this from Norwegian tax authorities for onetime we were alongside Bergen not on contract or hire babysitting the ROV and didnt have to pay UK tax)
Your company SHOULD sort out your tax for you, unfortuinately most Agencies think its too much hassle and then says its up to you. Under the agreement, the individual is responsible, not the company so even if your company cocks it up its you they will chase.
If you are a UK resident and used to claiming the Foreign Earnings Deduction for Seafarers, obviously any work you do in Norway and pay Norwegian tax is moneyy you will not be getting back from the UK.What happened to the member who works for a tax consultant, would be nice to hear from him for the latest info 🙂
August 14, 2009 at 1:50 pm #24463submanParticipantThanks Ray Like I said why go through all that hassle when you can earn more in other countries .
But I think we got the message over to the people reading this that until the rates go up over there is not worth working there .
Cheers
Subman
August 14, 2009 at 2:14 pm #24464flyingduckParticipantHi
something like NOK 3000 for each month you work there
15% standard deduction for being a foreigner
if you work onboard ships that are registered to work in Norway and carry out work which is not on their exclusion list (cant remember, stuff like construction, pipelay, surveys – think maintenance or repair is OK) and do this for >135 days a year, you can claim a 30% deduction up to a maximum of NOK70000 a year
you can also register to be exempt paying their National Insurance.The ships registered that allow you to claim seamanns tax back are called NIS Registered Vessels.
The deduction Ray talks about is Sjømanns fradrag (seamanns tax) which you claim for if you have done 130 days or more on a NIS registered vessel. Problem is, if a company you are paying taxes too doesnt fill this in for you then you have to claim for it by yourself. AND its in Norwegian.
Everyone should get a form called Selvangivelse when paying taxes in Norway and when you recieve this form you claim for
1.Sjømanns fradrag
2.Utlanding (Foreigner) fradragProbably other crap you can claim for too but most importantly you claim for all this on the SELVANGIVELSE.
Should work out to be a good bit lower than 36% anyway providing you working on appropriate vessels and not rigs.
August 14, 2009 at 3:23 pm #24465RhodesParticipantThanks guys…
The only positive thing is that when you pay taxes in Norway you can claim back after a few years a pension, probably.
So it s not that useless.
I have to get more info.
Still on the discovering processssssss…..
Cheers 💡August 14, 2009 at 6:01 pm #24466James McLauchlanParticipantThanks guys…
The only positive thing is that when you pay taxes in Norway you can claim back after a few years a pension, probably.Probably?? You sure will have to look into more deeply because in many countries there is a w_i_d_e gap between paying taxes and paying national insurance contributions, the latter being the one that may pay a pension and that would most certainly be based on many years of contributions.
Unless you know what you are getting into, the safest (cheapest) bet is to avoid Norway. It can, and will most likely, open a whole can of worms that you wish you had not ventured anywhere near in the first instance. Be 100% sure that any company, or agency, will wash their hands of any tax liabilities you may accrue and will not hesitate in coughing up with all the job and your details to the Norwegian authorities should they so be asked.
August 14, 2009 at 9:29 pm #24467Ray ShieldsParticipantPaying taxes does NOT mean you get a pension. Only if you pay their National Insurance, which we tend to get contracted out of. Its better noit to pay the NI and save some money now rather than a possible pension paying about £10 a year.
Many people DO choose to work in Norway, it suits some people, it doesnt suit others. Up to you to decide yourself. Its the same argument as why do people choose to stay with SClub7!
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