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October 9, 2009 at 10:48 am #3012
James McLauchlan
ParticipantI have had a quick search in the forum but no luck so far.
I’ve been contacted by a forum members on this….
Does anyone have any first hand experience of where a High Voltage Course (recognised by the offshore industry) can be taken in
a) Singapore
b) UK?
Also… validity of the ticket?
Refresher required very 3 years?best regards
October 9, 2009 at 11:25 am #25091Scott Beveridge
ParticipantJames,
In-house, IMCA guidelined company courses are accepted in many parts of the globe but may not be accepted everywhere.
October 11, 2009 at 1:29 pm #25092Kalbo
ParticipantMTCS in Windemere,UK do a course that can be in house or at their premises.
Ian Durrell
MTCS Ltd
Email: ian@mtcs.info
October 11, 2009 at 9:34 pm #25093Rons_ROV_Links
ParticipantDid the MTSC HV course onboard one of the vessels of my ex-employer 3 years ago. It only took 2 hours (video and a powerpoint presentation), after that the instructor left and I had to answer some questions on paper what was sent to MTSC. Received a certificate and pass. It was valid for 3 years.
MTSC offers distance learning , but they mention that to gain certification of competence for High Voltage Isolations, a seperate practical assesment must be caried out.
October 11, 2009 at 9:55 pm #25094ParticipantOctober 12, 2009 at 7:46 am #25095deepseacon
ParticipantHigh Voltage Training
http://www.faradaycentre.co.uk/courses/high-voltage/
One place in Middlesbrough
They have an extensive list of Electrical course’s
October 12, 2009 at 10:27 am #25096ParticipantRON with your comments above you recieved a Cert in 2 Hour’s plus an exam a few questions.
IMCA R 005 – High Voltage Equipment – Safety Procedures for Working on ROVs.
Training in High Voltage Electricity Reproduced from IMCA R 005 (February 2001)
Suggested course duration: 2-3 days
Part A – High Voltage Electricity
Part B – Electricity in Hazardous AreasSo may be you did a refresher but still 2 Hours?
What are the thaughts on a Company which can give High Voltage Isolations Certs out after such little training? or retraining?
As you are endorsing them by putting a link here?
A High Voltage Isolation Cert would be best taken from a Provider of Training of Electricians / and Staff required to work with Electricity some training providers also would cover the Imca R005 anyway in the course as Imca has to take the Info from the Industry anyway.
Or a Training provider who provides the said course for ROV Staff same Electrical hands on Experence for Safe isolationI Have had a MTSC Cert and its no longer Valid several years out of date but still i know how it was Given to me i would not refresh this course with them at all.
And i first went into a High Voltage Sub-station back in 1986.
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October 12, 2009 at 11:10 am #25097Participantdeepsea,
There have been many guys who have taken HV courses in-house and receievd an IMCA "approved" cert. The guys I have put through the course – usually 3 to 4 hours (max.) – have been guys that have an electrical background with the sheepskins to back it up.
October 12, 2009 at 11:48 am #25098ParticipantScotbeve
Most Electricians coming out of the UK have a low Voltage Safe Isolation Cert’s all ready its part of a 2391 which is done late in an Apprenticeship or say in the 4th year of a working career.
Usually City and Guilds Part 1 and 2 sometimes 3 and then for many 16th Edition Now 17th and the Inspection and Testing 2391.
JIB need this if going to be say Approved installation Electrician.Guys with that back ground have done many years of training with Safe isolation so they would pick up High Voltage training no problem.
Regarding then there is IMCA High Voltage Certs issued
Today there is far too many guys from NON Trade positons then holding these Certs as they are given out in an ROV Course of which most do not really have the experence to work with such Equipment early on in there ROV Career.
Then there is High Voltage training from MTSC but from my first hand experence it depends who trained you? and where it was gained?
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October 12, 2009 at 12:30 pm #25099ParticipantAll, thanks for taking the time to add the information above, however…..
RON with your comments above you recieved a Cert in 2 Hour’s plus an exam a few questions….
As you are endorsing them by putting a link here?…
Lets not start that game…. If we start suggesting that because someone has added a link they endorse it, then people will stop adding links, which I view as counter-productive to the main aim of this website.. to provide information for ROV people.
Ron didn’t endorse anyone. Not that I can see in his post. It appears to me that he simply stated the facts and added links.
The links were probably added to assist people to come to their own decision on the route to take.October 12, 2009 at 12:40 pm #25100ParticipantDeepsea,
Once again, I’ll stress on the "sheepskins" in place (proper certs and / or diplomas) and add that working experience is also a plus when I (would) vet a guy prior to taking a course or sitting in on an in-house course.
October 12, 2009 at 1:00 pm #25101ParticipantJames
Maybe my wording is not of a good grammer but my point is should someone be given a High Voltage Cert in 2 Hours?
The way Ron has wrote the reply looks likes to me as if its OK too and
the Company in Question does this contact them.How can one command a good Salary for a Skilled work force when ones advertising training of that Standard?
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October 12, 2009 at 1:06 pm #25102ParticipantYou have a valid point… but I guess (or at least hope) that it varies on the assessors opinion of the person they are dealing with as it my understanding that there is a practical aspect to the assessment.
Somebody that has been working in the game for years might fly through, but somebody new to the game might have no real clue. I would suggest Ron is in the former category.
October 12, 2009 at 7:23 pm #25103ParticipantIf you do the 2 day in house MTCS course its has a written and practical exam. Valid for 3 years.
October 13, 2009 at 1:35 am #25104DJansen
ParticipantWhile I’m all for in-house on the job training. I can’t help but think most of these short courses (hat have very little in the way of practical exercises and are mainly a paperwork exercise) are almost pointless. They may give a very basic introduction but that’s about it.. Just another cover the companies arse "he signed the form/did the course/knew the risk program..
I don’t know the statistics ( and they may prove interesting ) But how many high voltage accidents involving ROV guys have there been in the last 30 years ? Surely knowing how to turn of the power and isolate the system should be part of the basic training you receive when you start working with subs. Also being part of a team that checks that the sub is isolated together and ensures each others safety.. Guess this comes down to having intelligent, sensible and reliable guys to work with… Maybe that’s why nowadays we need a course ? Because the companies are now willing to hire guys well below the standard required who can’t be trusted to perform a (realitively) simple procedure..
As a mechanical guy who had no formal training in High Voltage but was given plenty of on the job training I can’t say I have ever (in 20yrs) winessed an incident or near miss involving HV.
Employ the right people, train them on the job.. No need for third party courses… Dunno how us ‘old hands’ managed in the past …
🙄 🙄Sorry I ventured off topic… my bad
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