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  • March 9, 2011 at 3:46 pm #4130
    Andy Matthews
    Participant

    I’m either brain dead drunk or both. I have work coming up in Canada and have been told I need the OLF safety module.

    I’ve looked and cannot find exactly what the fuck this is! Can anyone enlighten me. Thanks

    March 9, 2011 at 5:01 pm #30530
    Rons_ROV_Links
    Participant

    They mean that your Safety training needs to be approved by the OLF.

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    March 9, 2011 at 9:55 pm #30531
    Andy Matthews
    Participant

    I really appreciate the reply however I’m still in the dark as to what is actually required.

    I live in the Philippines and do my safety at IDESS, excellent personnel there by the way. At any rate I phoned there yesterday and the girl I talked to didn’t have clue so passed me on to some guy.

    This guy gave me some convoluted story which made no sense at all, he was talking about cranes. I recall about 12 years ago doing the course at RISC in Aberdeen, the Noggie aspect was an hour video and lecture on Norwegian offshore law.

    At IDESS we were shown video of the new escape chute, we also wore a survival/escape suit during HUET. Then of course you have a full first aid course. We also were winched out of the pool in a simulated heli rescue.

    What else I cannot imagine the Noggies require is a mystery. I can not find it in searches, in this case Google is not my friend.

    I guess no one here has a clue as to what the particular requirements are? I’m going to Subic this weekend so while my kids are feeding dead chickens to the tigers I’ll go to the centre and find out.

    March 9, 2011 at 10:23 pm #30532
    Rons_ROV_Links
    Participant

    IDESS training is OPITO (UK) approved only.
    You need a training that’s OLF approved too.
    I do my training at Falck Nutec in the Netherlands and this is OPITO, OLF and NOGEPA (dutch) approved.
    I don’t know difference between the three accept it’s for different sector here on the North Sea and Norwegian Sea.

    You might try CTSI if their course is OLF approved (not accepted or what so ever).

    March 9, 2011 at 10:58 pm #30533
    Andy Matthews
    Participant

    Thanks for that, doesn’t sound good though in that if I read right I have to do another full safety course?

    If that’s the case then I suppose I won’t be working in Norway or Canada. Considering the taxes that’s really not a bad thing.

    This really boogles the mind, we used to put out fires, not any more as it’s too dangerous.

    We used to get dumped in the sea off Den Helder, not any more as it’s too dangerous.

    We go on jobs were certain things like boat transfers after dark is forbidden as it’s too dangerous. The job is down as a major part is needed and will arrive at midnight. Boat transfer no problem.

    Boat transfers for crew change forbidden, project running over cost. Crew boat on the way.

    March 9, 2011 at 11:27 pm #30534
    James McLauchlan
    Participant

    Mattjam

    As you know, the ‘safety first unless it affects production’ rule always applies. It’s going to take a few more offshore large scale disasters to finally hammer the point home.

    March 10, 2011 at 12:02 am #30535
    Andy Matthews
    Participant

    James,

    I don’t think it will ever change, I no longer accept the role of safety rep as it’s total BS. We could probably start a thread on disasters or breaches in stated company policies but it would never end!

    Frankly it’s not quite amusing either..

    Cheers

    March 10, 2011 at 3:20 am #30536
    Andy Matthews
    Participant

    I received the attached from IDESS. I’ll see how this one flies, the other issue I have to address is medical.

    Apparently Canada requires a yearly regardless of age. Ok this is not a big deal however it can be costly. I have to travel to Manila and usually overnight so in addition to the medical cost, hotel, dinner with the wife and her out shopping while I’m busy adds up!

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    March 10, 2011 at 7:22 pm #30537
    Todd Sparkes
    Participant

    Canada does not recognize OLF approved courses. We have Survival Training with HUET and HUEBA all integrated into one 7 day course which is good for 3 years the same as everywhere else in the world. OLF is a Norwegian approved course. I don’t know why anybody would tell you that OLF is required for working offshore Canada. Good luck.

    March 10, 2011 at 9:38 pm #30538
    Rons_ROV_Links
    Participant

    … which is good for 3 years the same as everywhere else in the world …

    As far as I know the OLF/NOGEPA/OPITO approved safety courses are valid for 5 years.

    April 2, 2011 at 8:25 pm #30539
    Andy Matthews
    Participant

    First: safety courses are good for 4 years, always have been as far as I know.

    Second: I went to IDESS before coming to Europe week before last and they do an OLF course which requires 4 days.

    Third: I checked out Falck Nutec and an upgrade from BOISET to OLF is one day only!! Wish I would have checked this earlier as have been in port here in NL for the last 3 days. (thanks for the info)

    Fourth: The job I’m on is cable/pipe lay, initially in the UK/Dutch sector. We loaded umbilicals for the Canadian job which is for Encana in New Castle and their Rep was there. I asked him about the OLF vs the Canadian course.

    He told me the difference is that in Canada they use a proper scuba set-up rather than the re-breather we do on UKOG. He also told me he travels from Nova Scotia to the UK to do the OLF and has never had a problem.

    The reason he goes to the UK is the Canadian course is only recognized in Canada. So all good news for me as I was anticipating worst case of 4 days.

    I had a new medical as Canada is one year, a buddy of mine came over from China to update his so actually had a good few days in Burgos area which I’ve never hung out in before.

    The medical was thorough, we went to Merita Diagnostic Clinic and it took a few hours. We could have picked up the cert the same day but elected to go drinking, check out some bars and picked it up the next day.

    The clinic does a psychological profile which is useless as far as me and my friend are concerned. They actually do it all, some you elect out of such as alcohol and drugs but better to have it all.

    Hope this info is of use to someone. On my return home I’m going to visit IDESS and speak to the director there about the OLF upgrade. Four days and more than a fair bit of change is unacceptable.

    The IDESS staff are all excellent, my opinion, and had no complaints at all when I did my BOISET there last tear.

    As far as staying in the Burgos area of Manila, don’t, Ermita has far more to offer.

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    April 3, 2011 at 8:47 am #30540
    Anonymous
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    ….I need the OLF safety module.

    Having very recently completed a refresher at Falck Nutec in Aberdeen. I was surprised how things have changed the last 4 years. We had folks on the UK and Norwegian course….. the only differance is a practical on the Skyscape, which takes about 30 seconds. This is the only "extra" norwegian content these days. All other aspects of the course were identical.

    Perhaps Falck Nutec for logistical reasons have combined the courses more than is stictly nessasary, but with Skyscape becoming more popular in the UK, I can soon see there being no differance in course content at all.

    April 3, 2011 at 10:12 am #30541
    James McLauchlan
    Participant

    In response to 225

    I read somewhere a while back that North sea countries with offshore Oil & Gas operations have agreed to harmonise offshore survival training to make any offshore survival course, taken in any country, accepted trough the North sea region and ultimately do away with extra training or extra tickets for different regions.

    April 4, 2011 at 2:53 pm #30542
    Etienne Demers
    Participant

    Hi guys,

    I did not read through the posts but I assure you that BOSIET and OLF are indeed accepted in Canada.

    That is what I have, and I have worked in Canada several time. I’m Canadian by the way.

    Cheers

    April 4, 2011 at 2:59 pm #30543
    Etienne Demers
    Participant

    Alternatively, canadian survival tickets are not valid for UK and Norway sectors. Which is why I do not do my survival here.

    Check the following link: http://www.sstl.com/faqs.asp

    A big pain in the ass if you ask me. Bottom line, a BOSIET/FOET + the half a day OLF uplift will allow you to work anywhere in the world.

    Cheers

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