Would a training course help???

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September 23, 2013 at 1:08 am #6472

Jamie hill
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Hey guys, so basically I’m wondering about going down the course route now. Like underwater centre but not sure if it entirely worth it. I already have a HNC in electronics engineering with most of my HND units completed. I’m also a time served car mechanic, currently working for a tuning company in northeast of Scotland. Electronics and mechanics are my strong points.

November 7, 2013 at 5:42 pm #34518

Daniel foxley
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Hi mate

From my experience I would say no as it sounds like you have a solid background that ROV companies look for.
Just keep pushing send out cv and calling.

November 8, 2013 at 3:00 am #34519

Ray Shields
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So if these qualifications and experience wouldn’t get you a job why do you think doing an introduction course (for that is all it is) would help?

Please read through the (many) topics in the Rookie section as this question has been asked and debated many times before

November 8, 2013 at 4:45 am #34517

piper
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A training course will certainly help the training institution, helps them get paid but whether you will get your money’s worth is another story.

November 11, 2013 at 2:00 pm #34521

Jamie hill
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I have read through alot of the topics and felt it was a rather split decission on the worth of a training course. People who got jobs after course are obviously biased towards them others arent. Id rather not be 3 – 5 thousand pounds out of pocket for something i know i would be capable of fixing, so i think you guys are right. Just keep applying and keep my ear to the ground. I have contacts in hallin marine, oceaneering, fugro and technip so its a case of harrassing them i think. Cheers for all feed back though.

November 11, 2013 at 2:33 pm #34522

deepseacon
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Jamie

Question for you do you have your medicals?
Do you have your Survival and maybe Mist etc?

By doing a course one gets a Document which allows you to be employed as a trainee without that the companys in North Sea will find it hard to put you out on day 1.

There fore what you will be applying for is a Proper job so to speak and going possible in the workshop first and doing some training by not having done the above 3 items restricts you chances of employment by atleast half in my opinion. and then you up against the older ex miltary guys been emloyed at all the major operators.

The fact you are local to ABZ you say and you have applied but something is holding you back and what is it.? its not your education or your skills. or the fact your local.

And personally 3-5 K is small change considering what you will earn when doing this job.

maybe you should think on the bigger picture its not wasted Money with your level of skills and education means you could get a job contracting first job is possible the hardest but by having the top 3 items means you can go at the drop of a hat and then onwards.

November 11, 2013 at 8:29 pm #34523

David
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You’ll get more money and a steady rotation as a rig electronics tech.

November 11, 2013 at 10:37 pm #34524

Jamie hill
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As crap a job as a "light vehicle technician" may be i have an immense respect for my employer. He is the reason that im a so skilled with everything from mechanics, electronics to computers etc so in all due respect and honesty i would never leave at the drop of a hat i would work a 2 week / 4 week notice. Simply because he has been so good to me and i would feel terrible to do so. Also bosiet, mist and medical booked for start of year (because i couldnt get much earlier and i also used up my holidays without taking into account local holidays). However i probably could earn better money and have better rotation but this is just the job i want and have done since i was 13. So until its time to throw in the towel and apply for other jobs il refuse to give up on my "dream". Last pilot tech i spoken to was working for subsea 7 and when i asked him what like his previous experience was he told me nill. His previous job was a "interior designer" so if theres hope for him then i feel ive got a fighting chance.

November 15, 2013 at 10:54 am #34520

rovdiver
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As i’m sure you are aware, there is a lot of opinions on whether to do a course or are they a waste of money. They may well be, but, put yourself in the employers shoes. If you had the choice of employing
Jamie A who has qualifications in A, B and C or
Jamie B who has qualifications in A, B and C AND has attended a ROV course.

Who would you employ ??

November 15, 2013 at 11:22 am #34516

Roy Simson
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Here we go again same debate ! However it still does not change the fact of the Thousands who have done this course and still cannot find employment .

If you wish to spend any thing from £2500 – £10500 then please go ahead its your money but will it help you " NO " I hate to think of the Thousands of trainees that the training schools have turned out .

Please will someone tell me were all these people are going to go ? If you did a course a got a job soon after then you were very lucky , You were at the right place at the right time , Nothing more .

But I am sure this debate will still be going strong into 2014 .

Cheers

Raptor

November 17, 2013 at 3:05 pm #34525

John Bridgett
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I have read through alot of the topics and felt it was a rather split decission on the worth of a training course. People who got jobs after course are obviously biased towards them others arent. Id rather not be 3 – 5 thousand pounds out of pocket for something i know i would be capable of fixing, so i think you guys are right. Just keep applying and keep my ear to the ground. I have contacts in hallin marine, oceaneering, fugro and technip so its a case of harrassing them i think. Cheers for all feed back though.

Well I’m one of the ones who did do a course at The Underwater Centre and I did get a job, well in fact 6 jobs offered!

My take was that I was the wrong age (57) but was in dire need of a career change. It’s true what people say on here, it wont get you a job and it wont make you an ROV pilot BUT……….

It WILL give you a very good insight to the industry.
It WILL give you excellent advice on CV, who to apply to and answers to lots of questions you will have.
It WILL give you an edge on your competition.
It WILL give you some flying experience.
It WILL give you more confidence at interview

So £5k or thereabouts is a lot of money, if you do a course and don’t get a job (unlikely with your skillset) you will kick yourself for wasting £5k.

If you don’t do a course and keep on applying and don’t get job you will wonder if you’d done a course whether the outcome would have been different.

I would suggest the course is a good option, you would get your money back within your first 2 trips, a gamble well worth taking.

TUC do an experience day for £80, you will get that back if you book a course, go and do it, it will answer many questions for you. They do NOT try to sell you course, they give valuable feedback if a course is right for you.

November 26, 2013 at 5:09 am #34526

regis groleau
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Hello Innerstate,
Can i ask you few question ? What was your background experience before you start the Rov course ? And where do you work now ?
Cheers, regis

November 29, 2013 at 6:14 pm #34527

John Bridgett
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Hello Innerstate,
Can i ask you few question ? What was your background experience before you start the Rov course ? And where do you work now ?
Cheers, regis

Apprentice trained steelworks electrician, City & Guild electronics tech cert, service engineer weighing equipment for 5 years, 20 years R&D Microprocessor control systems, 12 Years School Network Manager. Hobbies Private Pilots License, flying model aircraft, Area Chief Examiner BMFA. I started with Fugro and now work for Oceaneering.
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