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VOIP – Free international & Local calls – How to!

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  • #2724
    James McLauchlan
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    VOIP= Voice Over Internet Protocol

    Save a packet on international phone calls – by Jamesmc

    I thought I would share my recent experiences in cutting our company phone calls costs to a minimum.
    During my investigations I picked up on a lot of stuff and thought some of the information should be passed on for the benefit of all at ROVworld.com.
    Not being totally selfish it’s my way of giving a little back to the members we have here šŸ˜‰

    Some of the information contained in this tutorial is local to the Algarve area (Portugal). But the general principles apply worldwide.
    Current exchange rates:
    GBP Ā£1=Euro ā‚¬1.156
    USD $1=Euro ā‚¬0.709

    Minimum requirements
    1x ADSL enabled Phone line (If you have a ā€˜broad bandā€™ internet connection you have one already)
    1 x ADSL Router with spare LAN port (As above – you probably have one already)
    1 x Live ADSL Internet Access
    1 x VOIP Router
    1 x Extra standard land-line type phone ā€“ (ā‚¬10.00)- or use an old phone.

    General Info:
    Call are Free to International and Local Landlines
    Calls are charged to mobiles, but at a much lower rate than normal
    You still continue to pay monthly land line rental and ADSL charges to your normal Telco/ISP
    Once this is up and running all calls you make out should be via the phone connected to your VOIP router (Free outgoing calls)
    All incoming calls are via your normal phone as before (Free incoming calls) so you number remains the same if someone wishes to call you.
    Plus point. You can be making a call on your VOIP phone and your other land line phone is still free to receive /make calls
    This comes about because your outgoing calls are via the internet so do not tie up your wired phone line.
    Call quality?: The same as normal phone calls, but can be degraded if you are simultaneously downloading a big file or streaming music on-line.
    As well as the hardware you will need to open an on-line VOIP account and add ā‚¬10 Euros. More on this further down. (credit card required)

    ADSL router connected to the net
    There must be at least one spare LAN port on your ADSL router to plug the VOIP router into.
    If not, get an extra LAN 4 port router (ā‚¬20.00?) and daisy chain anything that needs router access through it.
    Example: Run a short Lan cable between your ADLS router and the new 4 port LAN router.
    This will give you three extra ports to play with for devices such as network printers, scanners etc.
    The VOIP box will work through an added LAN router but I advise (where possible) plugging the VOIP box directly into the ADSL router
    The ADSL Router can be ā€˜hard wiredā€™ (no wi-fi) or Wi-Fi enabled, as long as you have a port to plug the voip box into it makes no difference.

    VOIP Router.
    Example:
    Linksys VOIP Router from Algarve Laptops
    ā‚¬74.17 + IVA
    http://www.algarvelaptops.com
    Tel: +351 282 312 044
    Shop is located on the EN125 between Alcantarilha & Porches
    About 500 meters from Agualand in Vale de Lousas


    You need a VOIP account with a VOIP provider

    Poivy.com is a good a choice as any at the moment
    (German company ā€“ site in English)

    VOIP Account at Poivy

    Go to http://www.poivy.com
    Download the software where it says:
    ā€œDownload Now and call for freeā€
    Run software.
    Create an account.
    You will received account details by email.
    Note: UN: Your username
    Note: PW: Your password
    Once you have an account you may see reference to free phone calls limited to one minute each call.
    Ignore thatā€¦ more info lower down.
    Login to Poivy with your new account details and add 10 ā‚¬Euros (credit card required)
    This 10 Euros will only be eaten into when you call mobiles.
    Nothing will be deducted from your balance when you call land lines.
    Check the call charges list on Poivy.com website
    Basically calls to all landlines to major countries are all free!
    Calls to mobiles are charged but still at a lower rate than normal telco rates.
    Check rates on poivy.com for mobile call charges.
    You donā€™t need the Poivy chat applet (Bit like cut down version
    of Skype) running on your PC for the VOIP enabled phone to work.
    You have 90 days of free calls, if you do not add any cash t your account in that time
    Calls will be charged at minimal rate until the cash is gone.
    When that happens you get a voice message on your phone saying ā€œcredit is low/gone
    Please top upā€. Add ā‚¬10.00 and carry on with free International calls for the next 90 days!
    You can check you call usage at any time by logging in at poivy.com

    Small Print from Poivy.com website

    Notes: * Max 300 minutes per week of free calls, measured over the last 7 days and per unique IP address.
    Unused free minutes cannot be taken to the following week(s).
    If limit is exceeded the normal rates apply.
    With your FREE DAYS you can call for free to all the destinations listed as free!
    When you have no FREE DAYS left the normal rates apply.
    You can get extra Freedays by buying credit

    Setting up the hardware (VOIP Router – aka SIP device)
    A good help page can be found at:
    http://www.poivy.com/en/sipp.html


    Logging into the Lynksys VOIP Router.

    Use a web browser (i.e.Firefox) on your network.
    Last check was: http://192.168.2.104
    Username: user (yep just ‘user’)
    PW: Your password

    No login/router admin window?
    Paper and pen ready.
    On any phone connected to the VOIP router
    Check IP address by dialling ****
    On voice prompt dial 110#
    Write down IP address
    Last check was: 192.168.2.104 (Can vary)

    Configuring Lynksys VOIP Router
    Once into admin menu
    From top tabs menu select: Line1

    Under Line one section (in Basic View)
    Line Enable: Yes
    SIP Port: 5060
    Proxy: sip.poivy.com Register: Yes
    Make Call Without Reg: No
    Register Expires: 3600 seconds
    Make Call without Reg: No
    Ans Call Without Reg: No
    Display name: +351 289 472326 (Shows who is calling to person being called)
    User ID: your user ID
    Password: your password
    Use Auth ID: No
    Auth ID: (Leave blank)

    All other boxes checked: Yes
    Preferred Codec: G711u Silence sup enable: No
    Use Pref Codec Only: No Fax CED Detect: Yes
    DTMF Tx method: Auto

    Dial Plan (Actually Dialling Configuration would be a better term)
    Default supplied with the linkys router:
    (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.)
    There are other dial plans around that work.

    On SMC ADSL Wi Fi Router (or your ADSL / ADSL Wi-Fi Router)
    Some ADSL routers will, by default, block VOIP operations
    They needs tweaking a little.

    After hunting around a bit I found the two most common fixes.

    Under NAT settings
    >>Special Application
    Trigger Port Trigger Type Public Port Public Type Enabled
    1. 5060 UDP 5060-5061 UDP Tick/Yes
    2. 53 UDP 53 UDP Tick/Yes
    3. 69 UDP 69 UDP Tick/Yes
    4. 10000 UDP 10000-20000 UDP Tick/Yes

    Under Firewall settings
    >>Intrusion detection:
    SPI and Anti-DoS firewall protection: unticked/off

    If all goes to rat-shit try

    Voxilla


    configuration-wizard

    Also look here
    http://www.voipvoip.com/linksys-spa2102/

    I may not have covered everything so if you have a go at this and come up against a brick wall, have a good hunt around the web first
    for a solution then maybe reply here to add your findings or ask a question, I’m no VOIP/Router guru but I may be able to help.

    best regards
    James Mc

    #24091
    Scott Beveridge
    Participant

    Cheers James!!! A couple of them I’ve used before but others may not have.

    Reminds me of a book by Abbie Hoffman in the late 60’s… titled… wait for it… "Steal this book". I did…. This book was akin to what they have now-a-days to "How to Farq with people" by the CIA BUT this was from the "radical" hippies…. Heh, heh

    In it was how to make free long – distanced calls (in the US of A) with the old rotary dials on the coin – fed ($0.10, 10 cents, a dime (legal-type)) public phones. Call the operator on one phone, make your long-distance number request, wait for her / him to ask you to put in the required amount of coins, then grab the other phone next to the one you’re using, "69" the phone receivers (mic. to speaker and vice-a-versa), and insert the money into the phone NOT being used…. It worked well until they caught on and made the cords shorter…

    #24092
    Jae Park
    Participant

    Thanks for sharing all these! Now i can call my loved ones abroad for free.

    Regroupement credits

    #24093
    Christopher Tyson
    Participant

    I’ve been using http://www.pennytel.com/au/index.jsp#l Freedom Plan.

    80 free calls and 50 free SMS to over 70 destinations including Australia*, UK*, United States, Canada, China, Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Indonesia* and Thailand monthly.

    Package:

    AUD$5 Monthly subscription
    Talk as long as you like for only AUD$ 0.08 to over 70 destinations
    One free Traditional Phone Number (DID)
    No commitment, contract or minimum terms
    Per second billing – pay only for the time you use
    No flag fall or connection fees
    Free PennyTel to PennyTel calls

    Allows me to receive calls from Oz for nothing (local call to those calling), and for a total of around A$5.00/mth make just about as many outgoing calls for as long as I want anywhere. 80 free 8c calls are taken from balance, then reimbursed at statement date. PC needed to only setup the voip router.

    As with all VSP, have problem now and then, but found it the best value for money anywhere in Oz.

    #24094
    James McLauchlan
    Participant

    Some useful stuff coming out here.

    We did have trouble with getting the Lynksys VOIP box to work with our SMC router. Sometimes it was fine other times t would dial but we couldn’t hear anything. It was a router issue.

    The solution was to hook the Lynksys VOIP box up to a Lynksys Router.
    Works like a dream now. Voice Quality is no different to other land line calls, the bulk of which I am sure are routed by VOIP these days half the time.

    #24095
    Christopher Tyson
    Participant

    I also had a few problems setting up a friendā€™s voip router to the modem. Set up port forwarding, dmz etc, upgrade firmware.,….. Still problems.

    Tech support ran out of ideas too so got him and me an all in one Billion BiPAC 7404VGO Wireless VOIP ADSL2+ Modem Router. Easy to config with no conflicts due to being all in one. Has provision for 2 VOIP phone ports (and 2 VSP) so you can use a 2nd provider as a backup.

    Whole setup was a little expensive, but has paid for itself many times over, as well as the added convenience of making calls anytime/where without worring about the expense.

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