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March 14, 2008 at 11:45 pm #1367
flash
ParticipantHey guys, Dont you agree its time to "weed out the dead wood" from this Industry!!!! Its time for all Supers to pull together & keep the P/Ts & Trainees that cut the mustard & get rid of the (Dead Wood)!!!!
March 15, 2008 at 12:10 am #16647Ray Shields
ParticipantLong overdue but as long as companies have competency schemes that they (barely) give lip service to and there is a shortage of people offshore, they will remain.
And of course it also applies to Supervisors as well!
March 18, 2008 at 2:38 pm #16648backeyeburner
ParticipantI agree, Flash go to heli admin, time to check out buddy 😆
July 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm #16649StickAddict
ParticipantWhat would be the psychological motivation for posting a call to supervisors in the rookie corner?
Diagnosis= Tiny Umbilical
July 12, 2008 at 5:02 pm #16650James McLauchlan
ParticipantWhat would be the psychological motivation for posting a call to supervisors in the rookie corner?
Diagnosis= Tiny Umbilical
Good point.
Topic moved from ‘Rookie Corner’ to ‘Employment Discussion’ section.
July 12, 2008 at 6:42 pm #16651ROVRatt
ParticipantPlease give us your definition of "Dead Wood".
July 12, 2008 at 9:34 pm #16652Andy Shiers
ParticipantIt’s good for carpentry 😯
July 13, 2008 at 12:08 am #16653subseascott
ParticipantAlrighty,
I personally am very opinionated & have, over the years, found that believe it or not, I’m not always right!!! Yeah, my thoughts exactly!!!
Anyway, having worked with a fair share of what I’m sure you’re referring to as ‘Dead Wood’ I have found that these zimmer jockeys do have their places in an ROV crew.
Yeah, granted they might go back to when they were launching subs off of the Ark & never seem to get oil on their overalls but at the end of the day I would would rather have a fossil beside me when doing some big construction lifts than a hot shot that knows a mate who has or has heard about this and that. End of the day, the guys I’ve worked with that have been around the block a few times……..
1)Aren’t scared to shoot the OCM etc down for a bad call.
2)Will scream & shout at the PM when a crew change hasn’t came through.
3)Has been through the immigration in Outer Mongolia multiple times & can point you in the right direction.
4)Knows what that random thing on the seabed is when you happen to come across it
5)Knows a temporary random fix for something like the old coke can tether reterm
6)bla, bla, bla & yes, "Mind fan they were fields"
Anyway, as I said. I definately know who I would rather have beside me, even if it means doing all the pm’s on my own!
Just my thoughts though, scariest calls by an "experienced hand". Answers on a postcard to…………………………..
July 13, 2008 at 4:25 am #16654RMAC
ParticipantI totally agree with the last post, some of the old oak wood are a must in the industry and even though their delivery methods may have been tainted over time the experince is essential to the growth of the young guys.
I have rolled my eyes at a few of the "old grandpa sayings" but in the end have always appreciated the fact that they have took the time to pass the knowledge on to those that listen.
I say keep the aged until they decide to retire they toe caps and then hope to god that you have learned enough to survive in the deep blue without them.
Cheers
Asia
July 13, 2008 at 5:10 am #16655Scott Beveridge
ParticipantR.,
Real important that second sentence was / is…
….took the time to pass the knowledge on to those that listen.
to those that listen… instead of "why don’t I do it this way???" Or (one of my major peeves) "You didn’t say that!!!" or "Oh no, it’s definitely over here…" the list goes on…
July 13, 2008 at 7:27 am #16656RMAC
Participant😉
July 13, 2008 at 7:39 am #16657Anonymous
GuestHi
Good saying Subseascott and Mr. R ( i wonder if they listen to me)July 13, 2008 at 8:02 am #16658Andy Shiers
ParticipantWhether they are good or bad , Those ZF’s ( Zimmer Framers ) give you experience rightly or wrongly ! It’s called apprentiship. If you have any brains , you will sort out what experience is relevant and utilise this knowledge on future jobs.
That’s why our industry is so uniquie.
Dead wood in deed 😕 You are acting like a teenager thinking you know aaaaaaallllll the answers 🙄
You never cease to learn in this industry , ‘Youngman’ That’s my advice to you 😯July 29, 2008 at 2:21 pm #16659Sarcy
Participantand when have you listened to any advice Asia? 😉
July 29, 2008 at 3:06 pm #16660misiuek
Participantpot kettle …. 😉
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