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  • #1675
    steve walsh
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    Hi Folks:

    I am about to start a 2-year ROV course in September. I was just wondering if any agency would consider me employable after doing the following courses. Iwelcome any comments. I also hold a Bachelor of Science degree

    PROGRAM OUTLINE

    Term 1

    ELTK 3104 (Electrotechnology)
    ELTR 3117 (Fabrication)
    ELTR 3118 (Industrial Electronic and Controls)
    ELTR 3119 (Data Communications)
    ENGR 3100 (Blueprint Reading)
    FLDS 3106 (Introduction to Fluid Statics & Dynamics)
    FLDS 3107 (Hydraulic Controls)
    WKPR 3106 (Workshop Practice)
    Term 2

    ELTK 3105 (High Voltage Safety)
    ROVO 3100 (Introduction to ROV Systems)
    ROVO 3101 (ROV Operations)
    ROVO 3102 (ROV Maintenance)
    ROVO 3103 (Underwater Acoustic Applications)
    ROVO 3104 (Launch & Recovery Systems or LARS)
    Term 3

    (Pilot Training – 4 weeks)
    ROVO 3105 (ROV Ship Interaction)
    ROVO 3106 (ROV pilot Training)
    ROVO 3107 (Simulator Training)
    (Safety Training – 2 weeks)

    SFTY 1102 (Basic First Aid)
    SFTY 1103 (TDG – Transportation of Dangerous Goods)
    SFTY 1104 (WHMIS – Workplace Hazardous Materials Information System)
    SFTY 1115 (BST – Basic Survival Training)
    SFTY 2101 (H2S Alive)

    #18374
    ROVRatt
    Participant

    Hi Kwinnw

    Where are you going to be doing this course and what accreditation will the institution give you? Also, how much does it cost?

    The curriculim subjects seem mostly good but it takes much more than 1 term of theory and practice to make a tradesman. Even a degreed engineer is usually rather useless as a tradesman. A tradesman is what the ROV companies want. They want someone that can fix the ROV, not design it.

    In which direction of study did you complete your BSc?

    Even after these courses you would still be a trainee offshore and I doubt an agency would have much use for you yet. Rather try a company that is prepared to invest time and money to bring you up to the required standard.

    Somehow I don’t notice HUET (Helicopter Underwater Escape Training) on the curriculim.

    Find out if the safety training is OPITO approved.

    Hope this info is useful and doesn’t dash any of your hopes but gives you a bit of an idea of the reality out there. Persevere.

    #18375
    steve walsh
    Participant

    ROVRatt:

    Thanks for the imput. The course is run by the Marine Institute, a division of Memorial University in St. John’s NL. The safety training given is the course required to work offshore in North America. I believe you have to do another, possibly HUET for Europe/Asia.The course runs about $4500.00 total for the 2-years. My degree is in Psychology, but I did work a summer for an oilfield inspection company and was trained ,in-house, for NDT work. The certs given are:

    ROV Pilot/Tech Certification
    BST (Basic Offshore Survival Training)H2S Hydrogen Sulphide Safety TrainingWHIMS (Workplace Hazard Identification Management System)Basic First Aid

    The pilot/tech certification is in the process of being given by the Diver Certification Board of Canada. I’m hoping the certification is valid by the time I finish.

    #18376
    ROVRatt
    Participant

    Hi KWinnw

    The pilot/tech certification is in the process of being given by the Diver Certification Board of Canada.

    I am aware that Canadian certifications and accreditations are quite thorough and stringent, so hopefully this is a step in the right direction for those acheiving this qualification. I’m not sure how it will be accepted by the ROV companies though. Maybe someone else on this forum has some input?

    Are you hoping to work for a Canadian based ROV company or elsewhere in the world? I have spoken to a Canadian ROV pilot working worldwide and he said that if you wanted to work for the Canadian division of a certain worldwide ROV company, you would be required to live within a certain area and work off Canada. Have you heard of this?

    Your psychology degree would stand you in good stead as you will encounter all kinds of personalities and nutters offshore!

    #18377
    steve walsh
    Participant

    There are not too many Canadian ROV companies around. Job prospects here on the East Coast of Canada for ROV pilots is sketchy at best. I’ll be looking to work internationally, while living in Canada.

    #18378
    rovbionic
    Participant

    Dude …take it from a fellow country man…dont waste your money
    As ratt says your still a trainne after the thousands $ on a course I or none one else has heard of.

    If anything do the 3 wk course in the UK

    You have missed the boat if you take some course a newfie has dreamed up and the industry hasnt heard of….did you you hear of this course on this web site???
    Didn’t think so.

    Really….two years!!!

    #18379
    Preid
    Participant

    Dude …take it from a fellow country man…dont waste your money
    As ratt says your still a trainne after the thousands $ on a course I or none one else has heard of.

    If anything do the 3 wk course in the UK

    You have missed the boat if you take some course a newfie has dreamed up and the industry hasnt heard of….did you you hear of this course on this web site???
    Didn’t think so.

    Really….two years!!!

    I also agree with above posts, I wasted £15,000 on 4 shiney bits of paper and now I wish id spent a year in college getting a HNC in electronics instead of a 7 week holiday in Fort William.

    This doesnt apply to you as such, but guys with no technical background have little to no chance of getting a start offshore in the ROV field. I’m sure they know this at Fort William and yet they’ll happily smile and sh*t you up with storeys of grandeur.

    The three week course is pretty good for getting some flying time with and a basic understanding of 3 phase electronics. You’ll have to read up about fibres and hydraulics out of school time as they wont even scratch the surface.

    #18380
    ROVRatt
    Participant

    Guys, before you knock the courses offered have a look at the Memorial University’s Marine Institute http://www.mi.mun.ca/ , looks quite interesting and $4500 for two years compared to how much for how long at Fort William Scotland for what qualification and experience?

    The Marine Institute has two vessels, the research vessel Endeavour with an AUV and ROV’s on board. There is another vessel as well, the Anne S. Pierce.

    The students do time offshore as well and at the end of the course they are at Pilot/Tech 2 level.

    The entry requirements are quite stringent.

    Here is something interesting from the universty’s website:

    St. John’s, NL- The Eastern Edge Robotics team proved once again that they are the team to beat. The team, comprised of students from the Marine Institute, Memorial University’s Faculty of Engineering and College of the North Atlantic, captured top honors, beating out 25 teams in the Explorer (advanced level) class competition at the 2008 MATE International ROV Competition, held at the Scripps Institution of ceanography–University of California San Diego from June 26-28.

    See this as well http://www.mi.mun.ca/news/ROV%20Program%20introduced%20at%20MI%20for%20High%20School%20Graduates.pdf

    I see Dr Robert Ballard of Titanic, Hood and Bismarck fame has been a guest of the university.

    Kwinnw, you may be onto a good thing, what do others think?

    #18381
    Andy Shiers
    Participant

    But they don’t practice Pipeline inspection , Platform inspection etc ? Do they ?
    I still think the only good course is the one one provided by the ROV company ………………………. Not a school !
    The company obviously has an interested investment in the candidate to employ him to begin with . This then becomes a mutual benifit to all concerned ………………… Pay structure for experience and also loyalty.
    The schools are only there to make money off the back of the Student and false promises !
    Ya still havna convinced me yet Dude.

    #18382
    steve walsh
    Participant

    I’ve spoken to the head of ocean technology there on a couple of occasions. He seems to be a good guy and certainly knows his stuff. The guys from previous courses have all gotten workterms at companies such as Oceaneering and Saipem and all are currently employed in the industry.The Marine Institute has good industry partners. The course seems to be a good entryway for someone with a not-so-great technical backround, such as myself, to get into the industry. They seem to hav edone their research before setting up the course. I still have some feelers out to other companies to see how they would trat someone who comes out of the course. I’m curious to see what they say.

    #18383
    ROVRatt
    Participant

    Thanks for the input Lostboy

    Realistically, how long does it take someone that is already an experienced pilot at grade 2 to learn pipeline and platform inspection?

    The company doesn’t have to invest a year or two getting the pilot up to standard either so its to their benefit to employ the guy.

    If the major ROV company, Oceaneering, are employing their guys and Saipem, who I have seen using SonSub, are snapping them up, there must be some advantage to the course.

    Reading the curriculim, the courses offered are close to what a reputable ROV company’s training course offers, excepting for the first technical part.

    So far this is the most beneficial and cheapest private ROV training course that I have come across. The flights, training course and stay in a foreign country for a company ROV training course costs a company more than this course costs the individual.

    #18384
    Anonymous
    Guest

    " My degree is in Psychology "

    That will come in hand then !! the lost one need HELP!!

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