Sonsubs new rates

[rovnumpty]

The rates mechtech posted are correct.

Some agency personnel were getting some extra for certain jobs. Some were are even getting a loyalty bonus!

Flip side is, other agency personnel were/are getting a hell of a lot less! I got a £20 a day pay rise moving from agency to staff, doing the same job on the same vessel!

And before anyone says ‘I wouldn’t have worked that’, tried that tactic and ended up sitting at home for 3 months.

Some of the agencies are now cutting deals with the ROV companies to supply X amount of personnel each month for a fixed rate. This means that, on some occasions, the people saying ‘you’re too expensive’ aren’t the rov companies, but the agencies themselves. The cheaper they get you out at, the more profit for them.

[Anonymous]

Some of the agencies are now cutting deals with the ROV companies to supply X amount of personnel each month for a fixed rate.

Hi
That is true, i know for sure, my friend is working like that now.

[luckyjim37]

From experience this year the agencies have been all pricing within a few pounds a day of each other for the last couple of years. One big agency who I will not mention however there initials are the same as the passport office seem to like to hold you back for specific clients even if this does not suit your needs. At some point they are going to reallise that the pilot is also there client and need to take his or her (as we there are not just men in the industy) opinions into account.

Seems to me that the overall industry pay structures are a bit messed up.

Fugro are now so big they should not have a lean period for at least five years from what I have been hearing. Sonsub however are working the personnel bloody hard this year so having worked a lot for them recently I think the pay for staff is rubbish against the profits the company must now be making.
The bonus is good for staff and other personnel on specific jobs but when you turn up prepared to do five to six weeks and start being hassled to do seven to eight weeks you start to wonder is an extra twenty pounds a day worth it?

Anyhow it is good to see rates are starting to climb again so we should not really complain.

As an after thought which company has MRV 3 & 4 (proper MRV that is not these newfangled ones).

[yeeyo]

Luckyjim, MRV 3 and 4 are with ISS

[Scott Beveridge]

Guys,

Those rates are 10 years old! 😆 😆 Saipem need to get their pasta stains cleaned…

Try 400 – 600 GBP on for size. IF YOU DON’T ASK, YOU DON’T GET!!!

[luckyjim37]

Saipem also screw their rig staff last year they offered a senior member of staff on the Scabby 6 less than a euro a day payrise. He had not had a payrise for three years. That is the Saipem way. However there is aparently a certain lady in the Sonsub office who does not like to give money out and that may have a lot to do with it.

Thanks yeeyo. Someone asked me earlier today so I thought I would ask on here. This site is a place of infomation gathering as well as bitching about pay. 😆

400-600 Pounds is a little silly when asking for a payrise. Maybe 300 to 400 is a more realistic target. It is all well and good getting paid a shed load of cash but that money comes from somewhere. Cutting back on spares for example. Yes we all get paid loads but life is harder in general and then to get over that we would all want more money.

Also maybe we would all get paid more if some of the Asia Gang stayed in Asia on the pitance they always earned when it was quiet and stopped moving back up to the North sea when it is busy. They think they are on cracking deals but in reality it forces our rates down because the labour is available at them rates.

Peanuts, Monkey’s ?

[reg]

The bonus, max is 12 1/2%, is paid twice a year – It is 12 1/2 % of total earnings Jan to June paid in July, then the same July to Dec paid in Jan, with the pension and 10% uplift for Africa a supv can earn over £400/day then there is BUPA and an insurance scheme if off sick for more than 13 weeks. not many companies provide BUPA, Pension and insurance.
So not that bad when it is all added up.

[Scott Beveridge]

Saipem also screw their rig staff last year they offered a senior member of staff on the Scabby 6 less than a euro a day payrise. He had not had a payrise for three years. That is the Saipem way. However there is aparently a certain lady in the Sonsub office who does not like to give money out and that may have a lot to do with it.

Thanks yeeyo. Someone asked me earlier today so I thought I would ask on here. This site is a place of infomation gathering as well as bitching about pay. 😆

400-600 Pounds is a little silly when asking for a payrise. Maybe 300 to 400 is a more realistic target. It is all well and good getting paid a shed load of cash but that money comes from somewhere. Cutting back on spares for example. Yes we all get paid loads but life is harder in general and then to get over that we would all want more money.

Also maybe we would all get paid more if some of the Asia Gang stayed in Asia on the pitance they always earned when it was quiet and stopped moving back up to the North sea when it is busy. They think they are on cracking deals but in reality it forces our rates down because the labour is available at them rates.

Peanuts, Monkey’s ?

Hey luckyjim, yeah, u have some valid points about SOME ROV, diving, ad infinum folks from Asia (pretty big place) flooding the market with extremely cheap wages (to me that’s 380 GBP for Snr. Supv!!!) I’ve gotten up to and including 650 GBP / day after a long haggling over the phone. Averaging 500 GBP at the moment. Equipment rates (as you should know) are also high, spares, sub-contractors, etc. It’s all snow-balled and spares are still essentially the same price after the inflation increases. Sooooo, to all, DON’T BE AFRAID TO ASK. The rates have been stagnant for the past 15 – 20 years. Trust me, I’m not afraid to ask for those rates. All they can say / retort is “the usual platitudes”.

[sedco]

I’ve gotten up to and including 650 GBP / day after a long haggling over the phone. Averaging 500 GBP at the moment.

Good effort.

[Steve]

Trust me they are straight from sonsub, i got them emailed to me by a friend who is employed directly through sonsub and is on the S7000, and believe it or not those were AGAIN RE-drafted because they were low.

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[Steve]

The bonus, max is 12 1/2%, is paid twice a year – It is 12 1/2 % of total earnings Jan to June paid in July, then the same July to Dec paid in Jan, with the pension and 10% uplift for Africa a supv can earn over £400/day then there is BUPA and an insurance scheme if off sick for more than 13 weeks. not many companies provide BUPA, Pension and insurance.
So not that bad when it is all added up.

Most companies do provide benfits

[Steve]

Saipem also screw their rig staff last year they offered a senior member of staff on the Scabby 6 less than a euro a day payrise. He had not had a payrise for three years. That is the Saipem way. However there is aparently a certain lady in the Sonsub office who does not like to give money out and that may have a lot to do with it.

Thanks yeeyo. Someone asked me earlier today so I thought I would ask on here. This site is a place of infomation gathering as well as bitching about pay. 😆

400-600 Pounds is a little silly when asking for a payrise. Maybe 300 to 400 is a more realistic target. It is all well and good getting paid a shed load of cash but that money comes from somewhere. Cutting back on spares for example. Yes we all get paid loads but life is harder in general and then to get over that we would all want more money.

Also maybe we would all get paid more if some of the Asia Gang stayed in Asia on the pitance they always earned when it was quiet and stopped moving back up to the North sea when it is busy. They think they are on cracking deals but in reality it forces our rates down because the labour is available at them rates.

Peanuts, Monkey’s ?

But you got to remeber everything that happens with SS has to be approved by SaiP in Italy.

[luckyjim37]

Wow scotbeve all I can think of in reply to your remarks are you must be a superstar topgun pilot or you are full of it.

As most agency workers do I keep my ear to the ground regarding rates. Nearly every respectable agency pays virtually the same rate for each recognised level of Pilot.

At the moment good supervisors seem to be pushing around about 400GBP. Occasionally you may get lucky and negotiate an exceptional rate but I am sure in the next lul the companies will remeber who screwed them when it got busy….. Could your name be on that list.

Or are you just trying to wind people up on this site to see if you can stir up some kind of revolt throughout the industy to push rates through the roof. This would lead probably to an influx of personnel from other countries who work for half the price (like the Asian dwelling money grabbers who have come back to the north sea from the bottom of the barrel/bottle).

[truered]

😕 😕 😕 😕 😕

hmmm

[DANFROV]

I agree, Sonsub and the rest are very close in their rates.

With work slowing down over the winter months, these rates will probably be the best you can get.

Dan

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