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December 16, 2007 at 8:50 pm #1187oilypipeParticipant
Calling all brave ROV souls out there, I hear all this talk about unions and pay rates but nothing gets done? Lets for once be united like the divers last year and STOP all ROV work world wide and get the day Rates increased 25% across the board.
They are making a killing off us.
It’s time to stop talking and lets take action, Let’s pick a date and stop all work.
Regards
OilypipesDecember 16, 2007 at 10:26 pm #15018Scott BeveridgeParticipant😀 😀 😀
YES!!!! I second the motion!!!!
Who has the brass ones???????
December 16, 2007 at 11:08 pm #15019oilypipeParticipantTo all person’s please just don’t read this and walk away voice your thought and opinions as we will all benefit from an all ROV work stoppage.
This is finally your chance to speak up and stop being the lowest paid profession in the offshore world.
Let’s all unite and pick a day where all ROV operations around the world will come to a Halt for a 25% pay increase to all ROV positions.
All ROV operators please support your employees when the time comes.
Regards
oilypipeDecember 17, 2007 at 4:10 am #15020Scott BeveridgeParticipantOily,
Noticed there wasn’t any more replies other than myself…. Hmmmmm.
IF this happens it would have to be after the hols. And yes, I know that most ROV people will have spent a bloody fortune during the hols and the clients, companies, and agencies will be looking to have a dip in their outgoing money. Best time I believe…
December 17, 2007 at 5:26 am #15021oilypipeParticipantWere not saying this work stoppage is going to start tomorrow, What we are looking to do is stop all ROV work just after the New year. Sometime around January.
We need everyone’s support in this effort to make the difference. Even the big ROV operator’s out there like SS7, Technip, Oceaneering, Sonsub, Canyon, Dofsubsea, etc. Please support and keep your personnel advised to when a stoppage start’s. You the companies will also benefit from this work stoppage, it translate’s in to getting higher day rates for personnel and equipment.
We will post on this website when the stoppage will occur. Everyone and anyone is free to make suggestions or comments.
Regards
OilypipeDecember 17, 2007 at 8:06 am #15022Scott BeveridgeParticipantOily,
The third of Jan. would be a good time perhaps.
Any more replies / support???? Anybody????
December 17, 2007 at 8:19 am #15023SavanteParticipantAre you crying havoc and letting slip the gerbils of war??? 😆
December 17, 2007 at 8:22 am #15024Scott BeveridgeParticipantSav,
The divers did it and look where they are now. The companies, etc. are making 25 – 40% off of us…
December 17, 2007 at 9:28 am #15025SavanteParticipantMarket forces – I think the way things are done at the moment is the most effective way – keep on putting the rates up on a per job basis and stick to the guns and keep discipline amongst everyone – i.e stick to the rate and no under-cutting.
Keep on pushing the day-rate boundary and keep the communication high amongst ourselves. If an agency is out there and taking the piss. Embargo. An agency will struggle if all they can provide is trainees!
In the 90’s I think shell set a standard rate for agency staff and tied the agencies into it. Frankly I’m not bothered what an agency does – they got to make a crust too and I don’t begrudge that at all. So long as they are on a percentage of what I earn I think we have a mutual interest in pushing rates up.
If everyone coming in looks at the rates displayed on site here and then multiplies by 1.2 (I do find the rates here are rather low compared to what we’re finding in practise, but the data sampling is possibly low and therefore little distorted – absolutely not a criticism of james/gina). Could be explained by the fact that guys on the top crust don’t really want to attract others to their company and increase local competition for day-rate work?
We need to maintain a good coherent high quality product and protect that brand in order to maintain and push up (justify) those rates (i.e a highly professional, well-educated, highly-trained, coherent ROV pilot/supervisor – LOW RISK).
Striking costs a lot of money and forces those in management to look for alternative solutions. This year alone I know of 8 major ROV systems destroyed or lost at sea! And one system that was recovered by divers.
December 17, 2007 at 1:27 pm #15026Donnie CameronParticipantHey Scotty! If you’re gonna stop on the 3rd Jan I’m right there with you mate! Although the 4th would be better as I’m getting my hair done then.
😉December 17, 2007 at 3:41 pm #15027Andy ShiersParticipantWhat 😯
The dome bit at the back 😕December 17, 2007 at 5:46 pm #15028oilypipeParticipantSAV, SGB
The both of you gentleman sounds like real company men perhaps office jockeys at best? surely the Price of Cigarettes and a pint of Aberdeen’s finest have gone up in price? So why shouldn’t our day rates?
Would you rather wait for Uni0n’s to step in a negotiate a rate for us and then have to pay Uni0n dues?
Also lads when I refer to "we" this means that yes there is a group of us spread out on system’s in the GOM, North Sea, Africa, Canada, The Med and Asia.
The idea behind "oilypipe" is that 10 of us all working in differents parts have the password. That way we can keep up on updating everyone on our goal of increasing everyone’s day rate to what should be the current level of pay for our highly technical ability.
Sav and SGB please support your lads offshore. Don’t worry the 25% increase won’t affect your office bonus or your back handers.
cheers
Oilypipe
December 17, 2007 at 5:53 pm #15029Scott BeveridgeParticipantHey Scotty! If you’re gonna stop on the 3rd Jan I’m right there with you mate! Although the 4th would be better as I’m getting my hair done then.
😉Heh, heh, what? No manicure??
Yeah, starts at midnight… suck and see how many lads have the cajones!!
December 18, 2007 at 9:35 pm #15030oilypipeParticipantTo All,
The letter below has been sent appox. 100 people all from the major ROV operators and Hiring agency and pubilications.
Regards
OilypipeTo All,
You might have been following our ROV work Stoppage Worldwide campaign on http://www.rovworld.com ? Please make sure the appropriate people read this e-mail as it could save allot of people any serious problems.
Now that we have your attention, we are a group of ROV workers who work for YOU. We don’t wish to disrupt business but due to the Oil Giants posting huge quarterly profits and the price of oil coming close to $100 US dollars a barrel, All ROV personnel have been getting ready for a Work stoppage all over the world on January 8th 2008. The ROV crews that will be offshore during this time will be encouraged not to launch there Vehicles until a 25% day rate increase for all levels. When all the ROV operators agree on paying there workers the increase please send us an e-mail to this address or you can make a public statement on your respective websites? When we have heard from all the companies involved ROV crew’s will be asked to go back or continue on with work.
For all the company’s that wish to reply through this e-mail address, your response will be posted on http://www.rovworld.com so your employees will be able to see what companies are in support of a wage increase.
The diving industry have done the same tactic last year successfully, you the ROV operator’s just have to pass this increase on to the oil companies. All of our focus is not on hurting you the operators but going for what we deserve to get paid. ROV workers need to be highly trained and skilled people and we should be paid accordingly.
A copy of this letter will be posted on http://www.rovworld.com so that all of your workers can see that "Oilypipe" is committed and serious about the up coming ROV work stoppage. The group "Oilypipe" is made up of 10 offshore workers and we all have the password to this account and we are all offshore operating your equipment, We have at least one guy on each of the major ROV operators example Sonsub, Oceaneering, Fugro, SS7,Technip, DOfsubsea, Canyon and DMT. We are spread out all over the world, this way we could spread the word more efficiently.
The other way for us to get the 25% increase would to bring in a Uni0n, like the Maritime Uni0n of Australia or RMT of the UK? None of us wish to take this route as it would cause more problems and hard feeling between the offshore workers and management, That way would also cost us allot more than the 25% that we are asking for.
Please send this Letter to all your systems and inform all your workers to obey the work stoppage on January 8th 2008, If the oil companies don’t agree to pay the 25% day-rate increase. This is also a good opportunities for all the operator’s to raise there equipment day rates.
Please support all of your workers if they are forced to carry out a ROV work stoppage.
Regards
OilypipeDecember 18, 2007 at 9:52 pm #15031Paul BondParticipant‘Ten offshore workers’ with the same password – i bet the companies are scared to death!! I suppose on Jan 9th, (after this world changing ‘No Launch Day), there will be ten offshore workers with the same password looking for new positions. It might work you know – i have had a pay rise each time i’ve moved company!
I wish you good luck on this but normally find that you can’t get people in the same control van to agree let alone the whole industry!
Up the revolution lol
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